Drupal 7.10

Wordpress has all the features Drupal has, and much more. Wordpress has over 12 000 plugins. There is no way that Drupal will come close to that.
In the past Drupal could claim it has CCK and views modules. But these nice modules are now also available for Wordpress.

Wordpress has become a real killer.
No wonder why it was awarded best CMS over Drupal and Joomla.

Wordpress has all the features Drupal has, and much more. Wordpress has over 12 000 plugins. There is no way that Drupal will come close to that.
In the past Drupal could claim it has CCK and views modules. But these nice modules are now also available for Wordpress.

I don’t say that Drupal is bad. You can do good stuff with it. But why work with a CMS when you can find a much better one and much easier to use?
I had to build several website with Drupal (also Drupal 7.x) because of customers’ requirements. But everytime I can, I push another CMS (Wordpress very often).

This said, Drupal has several flaws.
- Drupal is very poor on many important features that are common with Wordpress. To name just a few: forum, picture gallery, social site.
- Next, the more you install modules on Drupal, the worse are the performances of your site. Compare Drupal with any other CMS with equal features, and you’ll see the difference in performance.
So if you plan to use Drupal on a shared hosting, just forget it.
Drupal is certainly the worst CMS regarding performances.
- Next, Drupal admin is crap. But I think many others have already written about that. So I won’t extend the issue. But it is always a nightmare to train customer on that one.
- Last, Drupal is unfriendly to use. Not intuitive and desperately confused.

So what’s the reason to use Drupal (or Joomla) when you have Wordpress that solve (almost) all your needs in a much better way? And that is a breeze to use.

Drupal is awesome, with a dynamic and fun-loving community of developers and themers behind it. If you are building a complex site and have the time to get over the learning curve, it's hard to go wrong with Drupal. OTOH, if you already have a Drupal 6 site, as Cassady said, migrating to Drupal 7 may be more trouble than it's worth. For the same effort (assuming you are even successful with getting your desired features all working), you could probably make significant improvements to a Drupal 6 site that might be more worthwhile than the migration to Drupal 7. I would only suggest upgrading a Drupal 6 site to Drupal 7 if you really need some features which are impossible to add with Drupal 6 (but even mobile support and a lot of things that might be easier to implement on a fresh Drupal 7 site are still possible with Drupal 6). Of course it depends on the complexity of your site and when you attempt to upgrade, but my assessment, at this time (and at least for the site I was working on) is that the upgrade path for many contributed modules is a bumpy road better left untraveled…

i need this version of Drupal...

I upgraded to Drupal 7, and after upgrading all of the modules that were upgradable, I had SQL errors with my views. Given that a few of the modules my site uses are not available for Drupal 7 (several of them dev or beta) as well as the prospect of having to re-do all my views, I'm going back to Drupal 6.19. I didn't like the look and feel of Drupal 7, and it was extremely slow. To me, Drupal is going backwards. After reading the reviews of Drupal 7 and my experimentation, I will not try to migrate to version 7 until version 6 is no longer supported. And there's a good chance that I'll end up converting it to something else. The reputation of Drupal is that of a has-been. Only the Drupal fanatics will argue that point. Drupal has become a bloated mess. Drupal is most likely to be left in the dust by another up-and-coming CMS.

Please do not believe all te negative stuff in the other comments, i work for 3 years now with drupal and build many sites/portals i can say it is the BEST effer.

To the person who mentioned Adaptivetheme:

http://drupal.org/project/adaptivetheme

Adaptivetheme is now a MOBILE theme based on responsive design. That's another plus for Drupal as mobile sites are a hot trend.

The Web has gone mobile crazy. Drupal is well-equipped for mobility thanks to its many mobile themes.

Very disapointing...
I wanted to build a social website for our community using Drupal. Forget it.
Elgg is 1000 time more powerful, and free of course.

I spent six months trying to learn Drupal with the help of three books and tutorials from Linda.com

I can't honestly understand why anyone would use it. It's slow, extremely difficult to learn and demands such a high level of PHP expertise that you might as well code your own CMS.

Drupal works best for me for many reasons :

1) It has an excellent, flexible theming and templating system. I can take my existing HTML/CSS design and port it easily to a Drupal theme with NO change. Instead of creating a theme from scratch or changing other themes, Drupal has many base/starter themes that allow designers to create, customize, adapt, port a theme without coding. My favorite base/starter theme is AdaptiveTheme,

http://drupal.org/project/adaptivetheme

2) Drupal has a huge, friendly community actively developing more than 10,000 modules and 1,000 themes for all types of sites.

3) Flexibility: Create my own CONTENT TYPE and create my own fields for the content type. Flexible theming system. Flexible API for creating own functionalities and integrating with other applications.

4) Commitment and active support for open Web standards, W3C standard compliance, accessibility, usability, etc...

5) Multilanguage and internationalization: I develop site for clients who want international languages along with English. Multilingual site is easy in Drupal. Multilanguage is built-in.

These are just a few reasons why I like Drupal.

Drupal is a publishing platform created by our vibrant community and bursting with potential. Use as-is or snap in any of thousands of free designs and plug-ins for rapid site assembly. Developers love our well-documented APIs. Designers love our flexibility. Site administrators love our limitless scalability.

Seriously this is the most bloated, confusing piece of dog crap you can get. Docs are definately not good enough and many modules dont have docs or good examples for version 7. The interface for each module is crazy. I'm racking my brain against the wall with this over used turd.

Best CMS I ever used
:-)

Unlike a lot of people commenting who likely just install the CMS, a theme and call it a day, I have worked extensively with the primary PHP-based CMS's inside and out - in this case, Drupal and WordPress.

In the Drupal vs WordPress comparison, both of them accomplish very different things. WordPress has been gaining traction very fast as a CMS especially with WordPress 3, and the fact that you can now create content types (although it's not obvious how to do so off the bat) gives WordPress a stronger argument. For sites where the client simply wants to edit pages, content and maybe a blog or news, WordPress will cover this better, IMO.

But Drupal does allow for greater fine tuning of the CMS such as permissions and theming. As friendly as WordPress may appear to be, the backend can still be overwhelming with unnecessary options to clients, so Drupal's structure makes it much better for whittling the admin theme and permissions down to what you want it to be. Drupal is also stronger at creating community driven sites right out of the box, versus WordPress (even with addons like BuddyPress). It is also a better choice for enterprise or intranet, having worked with some clients with those needs.

However, everything is not rosy in Drupal land at all...it is versatile but has a steep development learning curve and high development time / cost. Theming can be painful at times as some things in Drupal that isn't handled by the theme require overriding with custom modules / hooks, which quickly becomes a genuine pain in the rear.

Drupal 7 has come a long ways in improving the backend interface, but there is so much more that they need to do. The initial Drupal 7 release - as well as many contrib modules - is functional but can be kind of buggy. Unfortunately it has been four months since Drupal 7 was released and we haven't seen so much as a .01 update yet, and it sort of concerns me that judging by Twitter comments, Dries and other Drupal people at least appear to be more focused on Drupal 8 right now.

As for myself, I have since moved on from Drupal and even WordPress to Ruby on Rails. While that is NOT a CMS but rather a programming framework, on a major project I was able to build my own CMS the way *I* needed it, and in much less time than trying to override, strip out or fight what CMS's like WordPress or Drupal already assume I want to do.

In the end though, Drupal has it's place as WordPress isn't the best option for everything. It's used by a lot of major companies and businesses for a reason. But it's arguable that you may want to stick with Drupal 6 right now until D7 matures.

RE: GoldPath on April 10 2011 01:34 pm

"... For a personal site go ahead with Drupal. For a professionnal: choose another one. "
You obviously have no background to make such a statement.

Some links for you to start out:
- http://www.drupalsites.net/
- http://buytaert.net/tag/drupal-sites
- http://drupal.org/success-stories
- http://drupal.org/forum/25